CriticalThinker 37259 seconds ago
"Can you still taste your bitter tears from that Tuesday night in November?" Can you still taste your MAGA tears from that Tuesday night in November 2022? BWAHAHAHA!!!
CriticalThinker 37479 seconds ago
"For Trump you mean? This Supreme Court ruling is definitely to his advantage. They have nothing on him and they know it. It's very good for him. He wants to stay a media story until 2024. That's why he fought this in court, not because he has anything to hide. He wants to drag it out. He's as innocent as the morning sun so they can't prove a thing. The more they attack him the stronger he gets." Oooops Trump Organization found guilty on all counts of criminal tax fraud. BWAHAHAHA!!!
CriticalThinker 37702 seconds ago
"Get mad. You still losing in November d-bag" Ooops looks like your prediction went down the toilet!
DAS 55734 seconds ago
Prove it, lol All 6 comments you spammed are stupid and wrong, as always You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 73666 seconds ago
In a February 2017 divorce filing, an attorney for Bidenโ€™s ex-wife said the coupleโ€™s outstanding debts were โ€œshocking and overwhelmingโ€ and that they owed $313,000 in back taxes
klgmac 73674 seconds ago
In a February 2017 divorce filing, an attorney for Bidenโ€™s ex-wife said the coupleโ€™s outstanding debts were โ€œshocking and overwhelmingโ€ and that they owed $313,000 in back taxes You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 73691 seconds ago
And illegally. " In his autobiography, โ€œBeautiful Things,โ€ he says the money from Burisma โ€œturned into a major enabler during my steepest skid into addictionโ€ and โ€œhounded me to spend recklessly, dangerously, destructively. Humiliatingly. So I did.โ€" You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 73718 seconds ago
"Biden has admitted to burning through cash to pay for drugs and partying with strangers who routinely stole from him, and he struggled to pay multiple mortgages or keep up with alimony and child support payments to his ex-wife." All tax free! You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 73767 seconds ago
Follow the money. Expenditures compiled on his hard drive show he spent more than $200,000 per month from October 2017 through February 2018 on luxury hotel rooms, Porsche payments, dental work and cash withdrawals. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
DAS 100620 seconds ago
Not the issue. All 129 comments you spammed are stupid and wrong, as always. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 107779 seconds ago
. NBC News was first to report that an ex-business partner had warned Biden he should amend his tax returns to disclose $400,000 in income from the Ukrainian firm, Burisma. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ The walls are closing in.
klgmac 107816 seconds ago
. NBC News was first to report that an ex-business partner had warned Biden he should amend his tax returns to disclose $400,000 in income from the Ukrainian firm, Burisma.
klgmac 107929 seconds ago
They had to hide the laptop because of what was on it. Those days are gone. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 107945 seconds ago
They had to hide the laptop because of what was on it. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111204 seconds ago
Next up. Biden Org. Ten percent for what? In December 2020, Biden acknowledged in a statement that he was the subject of a federal investigation into his taxes. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111221 seconds ago
Next. Biden Org. Ten percent for what? In December 2020, Biden acknowledged in a statement that he was the subject of a federal investigation into his taxes. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111240 seconds ago
Next. Biden Org. In December 2020, Biden acknowledged in a statement that he was the subject of a federal investigation into his taxes. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111381 seconds ago
Imagine the optics of the presidents son taking the 5th! .You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111397 seconds ago
Must see TV. "Frank Figliuzzi, the FBIโ€™s former assistant director for counterintelligence, said there is a national security risk when foreign powers like China see an opportunity to get close to someone like Biden."
klgmac 111407 seconds ago
Hunter will have to show up for the subpoena. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ "Frank Figliuzzi, the FBIโ€™s former assistant director for counterintelligence, said there is a national security risk when foreign powers like China see an opportunity to get close to someone like Biden."
klgmac 111430 seconds ago
"Shaub had previously raised questions about Hunter Bidenโ€™s new line of work, selling his own paintings, which created the potential to purchase a painting to buy perceived influence, and also because the White House became involved in the transactions, arranging that none of the buyersโ€™ names be known to Biden, the White House or the public."
klgmac 111455 seconds ago
Shaub added, however, that โ€œitโ€™s imperative that no one at DOJ and no one at the White House interfere with the criminal investigation in Delaware.โ€ You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111460 seconds ago
Shaub added, however, that โ€œitโ€™s imperative that no one at DOJ and no one at the White House interfere with the criminal investigation in Delaware.โ€
klgmac 111472 seconds ago
The Red House will make sure of that. Shaub added, however, that โ€œitโ€™s imperative that no one at DOJ and no one at the White House interfere with the criminal investigation in Delaware.โ€ You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111488 seconds ago
The House will make sure of that. Shaub added, however, that โ€œitโ€™s imperative that no one at DOJ and no one at the White House interfere with the criminal investigation in Delaware.โ€
klgmac 111525 seconds ago
GOP congressional sources also say that if Republicans take back the House this fall, theyโ€™ll demand more documents and probe whether any of Bidenโ€™s income went to his father, President Joe Biden. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111534 seconds ago
GOP congressional sources also say that if Republicans take back the House this fall, theyโ€™ll demand more documents and probe whether any of Bidenโ€™s income went to his father, President Joe Biden.
klgmac 111537 seconds ago
Who won the House? "GOP congressional sources also say that if Republicans take back the House this fall, theyโ€™ll demand more documents and probe whether any of Bidenโ€™s income went to his father, President Joe Biden."
klgmac 111573 seconds ago
Who won the House? GOP congressional sources also say that if Republicans take back the House this fall, theyโ€™ll demand more documents and probe whether any of Bidenโ€™s income went to his father, President Joe Biden. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111590 seconds ago
GOP congressional sources also say that if Republicans take back the House this fall, theyโ€™ll demand more documents and probe whether any of Bidenโ€™s income went to his father, President Joe Biden.
klgmac 111594 seconds ago
You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ GOP congressional sources also say that if Republicans take back the House this fall, theyโ€™ll demand more documents and probe whether any of Bidenโ€™s income went to his father, President Joe Biden.
klgmac 111609 seconds ago
NBC News was first to report that an ex-business partner had warned Biden he should amend his tax returns to disclose $400,000 in income from the Ukrainian firm, Burisma. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111667 seconds ago
I understand, you and the truth are strangers."Hunter Biden laptop bombshell: Twitter invented reason to censor Postโ€™s reporting"You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111683 seconds ago
" In December 2020, Biden acknowledged in a statement that he was the subject of a federal investigation into his taxes" Joe must be so proud! You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111693 seconds ago
" In December 2020, Biden acknowledged in a statement that he was the subject of a federal investigation into his taxes" Joe must be so proud!
klgmac 111708 seconds ago
How humiliating to have to upvote yourself. You have been humiliated yet again You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111755 seconds ago
All on TV. Under oath. The documents and the analysis, which donโ€™t show what he did to earn millions from his Chinese partners, raise questions about national security, business ethics and potential legal exposure You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111772 seconds ago
HOW did Hunter get his job? "The documents and the analysis, which donโ€™t show what he did to earn millions from his Chinese partners, raise questions about national security, business ethics and potential legal exposure"
klgmac 111794 seconds ago
From 2013 through 2018 Hunter Biden and his company brought in about $11 million via his roles as an attorney and a board member with a Ukrainian firm accused of bribery and his work with a Chinese businessman now accused of fraud, according to an NBC News analysis of a copy of Bidenโ€™s hard drive and iCloud account and documents released by Republicans on two Senate committees. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111803 seconds ago
"From 2013 through 2018 Hunter Biden and his company brought in about $11 million via his roles as an attorney and a board member with a Ukrainian firm accused of bribery and his work with a Chinese businessman now accused of fraud, according to an NBC News analysis of a copy of Bidenโ€™s hard drive and iCloud account and documents released by Republicans on two Senate committees. "
klgmac 111832 seconds ago
Which hard drive is that? LOL. "The hard drive and documents from Senate Republicans indicate few of Bidenโ€™s deals ever came to fruition and shed light on how fast he was spending his money." You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111847 seconds ago
"The hard drive and documents from Senate Republicans indicate few of Bidenโ€™s deals ever came to fruition and shed light on how fast he was spending his money." You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 111874 seconds ago
Follow the money. Live on TV. "Analysis of Hunter Biden's hard drive shows he, his firm took in about $11 million from 2013 to 2018, spent it fast"
klgmac 111924 seconds ago
Hunter is already under Federal investigation. Hunter will have to show up for the subpoena .You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112060 seconds ago
It's called precedent. Eric Holder Is Defying the Law by Resisting Subpoena - USNews.com You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112079 seconds ago
Eric Holder Is Defying the Law by Resisting Subpoena - USNews.com You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112168 seconds ago
UPvoters are confused. You are confused with Holder. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112320 seconds ago
EVERYONE KNOWS NOW. AMERICA APPROVES: New Poll Shows Majority of Voters Want GOP to Investigate Hunter Biden You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112337 seconds ago
The tables have turned. "AMERICA APPROVES: New Poll Shows Majority of Voters Want GOP to Investigate Hunter Biden"
klgmac 112409 seconds ago
Did Joe receive any compensation from your Chinese business deals Hunter? You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112621 seconds ago
It's always the cover up that brings them down.Can the House issue subpoenas? You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112695 seconds ago
WHo? You first. "Eric Holder Is Defying the Law by Resisting Subpoena - USNews.com" You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112704 seconds ago
You first. "Eric Holder Is Defying the Law by Resisting Subpoena - USNews.com" You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112782 seconds ago
Which party won the House? Can the House issue subpoenas? You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112794 seconds ago
UPvoters should be subpoenaed. Can the House issue subpoenas? You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
klgmac 112878 seconds ago
The red House will. House Financial Services Chair Waters doesnโ€™t plan to subpoena Sam Bankman-Fried to testify at hearing on FTX collapse" https://www.cnbc.Com/2022/12/07/ftx-maxine-waters-doesnt-plan-to-subpoena-sam-bankman-fried-to-testify-at-hearing-on-crypto-exchanges-collapse.htm lDems like stolen money and lies. You lose again re1ard, get a life ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
Trumps Message 18 seconds ago
Libbies. Did you really think you could cover up all your lies forever? But we appreciate you setting up 2024 nicely for us. And incidentally any idea who your nominee will be? Good luck!
dshutts 33 seconds ago
When do the Raids on Presidents Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama,, and Their Government papers and materials taken when they left Whitehouse
augiesdaddy2 41 seconds ago
These leftist tyrants have got to be the grade a prime stupidest people on this planet. Who knew guns, by themselves, could kill?
Ibeanta Darwin 48 seconds ago
I subscribe to the NYT. For the op-eds and cooking. There is little acknowledgement of the laptop and scarce awareness of the Twitter dumps.
maribel 49 seconds ago
What they - Twitter and OUR GOVERNMENT did to us and our president - President Trump amounts to a crucifixion.. It is way past time that these people are punished to the full extent of the law. The members of the government that participated should serve very long terms. Democrats have salted the government agencies with criminals - goes back too many administrations.
HQ 65 seconds ago
100 Mil?? It's only a fake whiney documentary. Not some big movie? How much of that 100 Mil was just to them?
Tim 65 seconds ago
Who really cares about these spoiled a ss people? Or the King for that matter or Queen or whatever the idiots across the pond have now
Jan123456 73 seconds ago
First a John Solomon opinion column and now a Jonathan Turley opinion column. And you whine that evidence is needed. You who never looked at the evidence from the Zelenskyy call (violation of 52 USC 30121 and 2 USC 17b if all you do is take his call memo at face value) or the evidence from the J6 committee...that almost exclusively came from Republicans. So, where is your evidence that "Well, he didn't have to because everyone in the world knew that the investigator was working on investigating Hunter and Burisma,..." So far, nothing. As I said, keep your hopes up on those house investigations.
Rusicade 74 seconds ago
Libs cannot educate a child Libs cannot maintain jobs Libs cannot keep you safe But Boy-o-boy, can Libs pander
John Baron 85 seconds ago
RB v Kohn recites a standard far more exacting than mere involvement. "a State normally can be held responsible for a private decision only when it has exercised coercive power or has provided such significant encouragement, either overt or covert, that the choice must in law be deemed to be that of the State."
Robbie 92 seconds ago
Hmm.. I wonder what the CEOs of Facebook (Zuckerberg), Google (Brin/Page) and YouTube (Wojciki) have in common. Fun fact: Google censors 99.99% of the internet. Kinda like a virtual Gulag. Additional Fun Fact: Twitter CEO Prarag Agrawal, during whose tenure Twitter censored President Trump, was installed by Paul Singer. What do Zuckerberg/Singer/Brin/Page/Wojciki all have in common? I'd be accused of 'anti-semitism' if I told you. https://chroniclesmagazine.org/web/dont-like-twitters-new-ceo-blame-paul-singer/ https://gab.com/BlackScorpionNationalists/posts/109354940653954794
MGBSE 97 seconds ago
fauciSTEIN is a mass murderer โ€ฆ if the Jets mandated fauciSTEINโ€™S scienceFICTION for their players to take the clot-shot โ€ฆ THEN THE PLAYERS NEED TO SUE THE JETS (demonRAT fauciSTEIN canโ€™t be sued).
Dementia Traitor Joe Biden 112 seconds ago
wow -- what a kraaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeee ph. uk. king analysis too dumb to spend any more words on you, sorry
disqus_iY06o3QfY0 115 seconds ago
We don't ever win with Rino's leading the charge. Somewhere there was a deal. We will lose in the long run RINO's can't be trusted for a second. They are scum, end of story.
Aliberal 118 seconds ago
I'm supposed to care more because Grinder's Blakk and LGBTQwhaterver? She(he) kneeled for God-sake. In a year from now he(she) will be kneeling again.
Jessy Scholl 131 seconds ago
Joy Reid is wrong. Brittney Griner is an American. The problem is that she deserves her sentence and should have stayed in prison. We have to respect the laws of other countries. On the other hand, Brandon got offered a Marine and rejected him.
i'm with the banned 143 seconds ago
Contrary to what the story says, reparations are not paid directly to individuals except in rare cases. It's just more money for garbage like "job training", "housing assistance", and whatever they think will get more votes/kickbacks. Just like foreign aid never gets to the people that need it.
Habl 150 seconds ago
They were trying to suppress fake news, and Trump was full of it. If his lips are moving, heโ€™s lying, braging or dissing on sonebody
disqus_jtrSkngjwu 170 seconds ago
Seriously? He suggested that people could invest bleach to kill COVID. Sorry but he is narcissistic, only cares about himself and is a complete grifter as proven by what he is doing now to the Maga groupies. Sucking in their money to pay for his legal woes and more. He also suggested that we nuke a hurricane to keep it from hitting the US. Sorry, no leadership qualities and not a trace of empathy - please donโ€™t be conned
keithrj 170 seconds ago
The vital question is , who cares? It is shocking how severely the libs embrace censorship, when it suits their agenda.
Saltine Warrior 176 seconds ago
If you can still access them and they havenโ€™t been canceled or de-platformed, I would take all information coming from any of them with a grain of salt and healthy dose of skepticism. I would rely on my own common sense and put everything you see or hear or read through a rigorous smell test and BS meter.
Craig๐ŸŠ 184 seconds ago
So, forgive if I'm wrong.... you're aligning yourself with the likes of Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush? Yeah, I'm not on that team.
muawiyah 190 seconds ago
We all know the story. One part of it means you are intolerant of people with diagnosed BIPOLAR DISORDER...... You are not alone. Worked with a fellow who actually couldn't stand to be around them ~ guess he had a parent that really distressed him ~ so whenever we'd get someone in like that, his anxiety about the newbie was a sign, and he was never wrong. But the thing is The Donald said he sought to help a friend. Kellyann likes to ignore BIPOLAR DISORDER ~ she's got a daughter who sounds like a candidate for it, and no doubt her husband is off his nut quite a bit of the time. BTW, not all people with this problem act the same, and it's usually not violent. But it's up, and it's down, and it's argumentative, etc. You reference to that particular interview suggests strongly you like to kick people when they are down. That's a totally different sort of mental problem ~ you might have it looked into by a qualified person.
FelixNx 193 seconds ago
Reduce gov spending to what they get in taxes, drop interest rates, drill-baby-drill, get out of the way of business - inflation will end.
Honeyboy Wilson 198 seconds ago
She's only doing it because she would be primaried out in 2024 if she remained a democrat. They detest her in Arizona and the AZ democrat party has already censured her.
Surfinnonreality 208 seconds ago
Stop the lies. The Minsk agreements were signed to pretend to resolve the Donbas conflict. The region was never Ukrainian territory. It was occupied by Russians for centuries. The people there had a right to their own lives. The Ukrainians demanded they no longer speak Russian and they sought to deny them even their own religion and they were to report to Kyiv โ€“ not Moscow.
Steve Smith 211 seconds ago
So what. You probably think that fake man was unfairly jailed even though she broke Russian law. What a total idiot to bring Cannabis Oil into a country where it's totally illegal! Oh well, it's good that weirdo will never pass her genes onto anyone. Too bad Joe Xiden's were passed on to your hero, Hunter Biden. Glad 'Worse Sexual Predator than Harvey Weinstein' Bill Clinton's weren't either. Everyone knows Webster Hubbell is the father, just like everyone knows it's impossible for the two Obama men to have biological daughters.
Dementia Traitor Joe Biden 216 seconds ago
I guaranPHU.KING.tee you this will happen If Donald Trump doesn't win the nomination... He's going to DIVIDE the GOP by running as a third party candidate. And hand the White House to that degenerate, thieving, lying, sack of sch. it Dementia Joe for 4 more years... And our country will be DESTROYED.
Cactusbill 219 seconds ago
Dear Senator, I trust Kamala Harris more than you. Change my mind by passing federal laws with mandatory prison for employing illegal immigrants. Senator? Senator? Hello?
makestuff 222 seconds ago
Neither Sir Elton nor Mr. Carrey have left Twitter, yet. I doubt they'll make good on their threat. The platform is too useful to them, publicity-wise.
RuggedIndividual 233 seconds ago
So fraud and media deception is OK if its used against conservatives....too bad your fraud party got caught you cry baby
Obamagateโ„ขStrzokOut 246 seconds ago
2012 NDAA, habeas corpus suspended at the will of the AG... Hedges v Obama We see it in play with the J6 political prisoners.
swenk22 247 seconds ago
Exactly... what I read is that there will be banning BUT open communication to the banned- what, why, when- and a direct channel to contest and get unbanned.
Surfinnonreality 258 seconds ago
The Minsk agreements were signed to pretend to resolve the Donbas conflict. The region was never Ukrainian territory. It was occupied by Russians for centuries. The people there had a right to their own lives. The Ukrainians demanded they no longer speak Russian and they sought to deny them even their own religion and they were to report to Kyiv โ€“ not Moscow.
DesertDawg 295 seconds ago
Shhhh, you're not supposed to notice that. Besides, it's not really about "gun" control, it's really about "population" control.
LadyGreenEyes_MAGA 304 seconds ago
People toss out that number, but I've yet to see anyone offer any list supporting the estimate. An estimate isn't a sure thing, and without actual evidence, it isn't unreasonable to doubt that claim. Besides, every little church of Christians that gathers, that isn't part of some denomination or another, isn't their own. They are simply Christians gathering together. The Church is all who believe in Christ, while the local church is just that, a local gathering of His people in a particular area. Large or small isn't the issue; gathering to worship together and to help one another is. Jesus never said we needed large organizations. Those can be useful, but so can smaller groups.
Elijah's Bones 312 seconds ago
They weren't looking for an excuse, they just did it out of pure hate for him and his supporters,,after all they know what's best for everyone!
William Ding 318 seconds ago
The DemonRATS are pedophiles up, down and all around. Pedo Joe was ordered to pick her by Hobama so she can go light on child abusing DemonRATS, whether itโ€™s by pedophilia, sexual mutilation for money, child trafficking etc etc etc. Pedo Joe probably agreed with the choice once it was explained to him using crayons during his applesauce break. I still donโ€™t think heโ€™s figured out who keeps pooping in his diapers.
Liam 329 seconds ago
Anybody here ever own a SL av E ? Do we have any retired SL av ES on the boards tonight ? ....any freinds, neighbors, acquaintances of either former SL av ES or former SL av E owners ??? I didn't think so.